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#1096169 - 12/22/08 10:30 AM Does c'mere deer work?
SALECREEKHUNTER
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I decided to get some of this stuff to see if it really works. Its pretty expensive for the results. I have watched almost 20 deer walk by this stuff and they just smell of it and keep on walking. The results from this product really dissappointed me.
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#1096219 - 12/22/08 10:57 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: SALECREEKHUNTER]
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 Originally Posted By: SALECREEKHUNTER
I decided to get some of this stuff to see if it really works. Its pretty expensive for the results. I have watched almost 20 deer walk by this stuff and they just smell of it and keep on walking. The results from this product really dissappointed me.


I had the same results.
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#1096394 - 12/22/08 12:39 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: LCU]
FULLDRAWXX75
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Make sure you check your local laws, it is illegal in alot of states already.

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#1097689 - 12/23/08 07:46 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: LCU]
BZ911
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 Originally Posted By: LCU
 Originally Posted By: SALECREEKHUNTER
I decided to get some of this stuff to see if it really works. Its pretty expensive for the results. I have watched almost 20 deer walk by this stuff and they just smell of it and keep on walking. The results from this product really dissappointed me.


I had the same results.

ditto!!!!

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#1097736 - 12/23/08 08:17 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: BZ911]
WestTn Huntin'man
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You have to realize this is not the time of year that minerial and salt licks are used much by deer. Minerial and salt licks are not a magic potion to instantly attract deer. Put one beside a trail, crossing,or funnel and over time it will be used. After a few years it will be used more and more. Does teach thier young how to use a lick. Deer will go out of thier way to hit one when they NEED it.
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#1097899 - 12/23/08 10:08 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
Living2Hunt
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have tried and used this product! i have had foxes, yotes, and even coons eat this stuff! but hardly ever any deer! just walk right by it! i dont recomend it!
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#1098027 - 12/23/08 11:22 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Living2Hunt]
Jarred525
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I have had good luck in the summer with the powder form. I like to use it in front of my cameras but does not seem to produce any better results than corn.
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#1100813 - 12/25/08 01:12 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Jarred525]
biglefty20
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yea i tried it and i had the same results... did not seem to work
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#1110942 - 01/03/09 09:43 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: biglefty20]
Bertman
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never worked for me.
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#1110984 - 01/03/09 10:36 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Bertman]
Yank
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No luck with it either, just a waste of money for me. I just used the liquid tho and can't speak for the other stuff.
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#1111764 - 01/03/09 10:18 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
turkeyhunter64
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expensive gimmick excellent marketing.
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#1119563 - 01/08/09 11:24 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
RussellvilleRob
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Waste..
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#1125579 - 01/12/09 02:21 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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I used it all through summer and into bow season at my sons and my place will not make that mistake next year.
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#1127287 - 01/13/09 04:29 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: SALECREEKHUNTER]
cbcs1987
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I feel embarassed just to say I tried it one time 2 years ago. Buy cheap peanut butter at wally world. Paint it flat black if you don't want other people to see where your feedin deer (remember you can't do this during the season) to bring them in the area. Then just tie it to a tree and cut a 2-3" hole in the bottom so the deer gotta work to get to it. It cost less than a dollar, last weeks, and works better than anything on the "deer market." Give it a try ;\)
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#1165768 - 02/05/09 02:24 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: cbcs1987]
hunter82
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i used the liquid kind with no positive results
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#1166142 - 02/05/09 06:27 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: hunter82]
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Them Parker boys need to sell cars... That stuff is junk...
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#1166533 - 02/05/09 10:13 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: ShaneHallum]
4onaside
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 Originally Posted By: ShaneHallum
Them Parker boys need to sell cars... That stuff is junk...
Yeah, Hank Parker, Bill Dance, Ray Scott, Bill Jordan, the works. They's all snake oil salesmen. I might add that they've all gotten rich being so. Hey, more power to them if we are all gullible enough to keep buying what they are sellin'. And we just keep coming back for more.......time after time. LOL
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#1166717 - 02/06/09 07:11 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: 4onaside]
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It doesn't work on Southwest Virginia deer at all!
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#1168278 - 02/07/09 05:52 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: ShaneHallum]
buckdead
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 Originally Posted By: ShaneHallum
Them Parker boys need to sell cars... That stuff is junk...


if they did sell cars by the looks of this thread everyone on hear would be driving a lemon.
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#1168596 - 02/07/09 10:12 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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I duck hunt in ark and them boy out there swear by this stuff for deer.
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#1381436 - 06/24/09 04:13 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: cbcs1987]
B&C chaser
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 Originally Posted By: cbcs1987
I feel embarassed just to say I tried it one time 2 years ago. Buy cheap peanut butter at wally world. Paint it flat black if you don't want other people to see where your feedin deer (remember you can't do this during the season) to bring them in the area. Then just tie it to a tree and cut a 2-3" hole in the bottom so the deer gotta work to get to it. It cost less than a dollar, last weeks, and works better than
anything on the "deer market." Give it a try ;\)



Didn't work for me either, but I do agree with the peanut butter workin good.

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#1381528 - 06/24/09 05:18 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: B&C chaser]
Boone 58
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Raccoons love that little jar of PB also.
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#1384235 - 06/26/09 01:40 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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not work for me either
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#1384948 - 06/27/09 11:55 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: ]
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ditto again. Don't waste your$ Give it to Obama instead!
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#1385778 - 06/28/09 01:58 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
deerslayer25
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you can get the black magic deer cocaine with much better results and alot less cheaper... 7 bucks at walmart
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#1386062 - 06/28/09 06:20 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: deerslayer25]
GRAMPS
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I wasted my money on the liquid kind last year with no positive results. Guess I watched too many Hank Parker TV shows. \:\(
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#1493097 - 09/09/09 03:19 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: SALECREEKHUNTER]
Team Browning
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Works in keeping Hank Parker rich
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#1493214 - 09/09/09 04:36 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: THE ONE]
sksfordman
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I bought it last year and it layed on a a log and rotted along with it. I only tried the powder form though!
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#1493267 - 09/09/09 05:30 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: sksfordman]
Carlos Viagra
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I have a friend who used it last year and had great luck with it. He says it's the best thing he's ever used...
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#1493450 - 09/09/09 07:49 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Team Browning]
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 Originally Posted By: Team Browning
Works in keeping Hank Parker rich


LOL! \:D
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#1493657 - 09/09/09 09:08 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: TennBuck]
Big J
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Junk! Black Magic they will dig a freaking hole! I saw a guy pour Buck jam acorn on the ground and they dig a hole for it as well!!
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#1494425 - 09/10/09 10:31 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Big J]
sksfordman
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How long will a jar of peanut butter last for a deer? I thought of trying it!!
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#1516512 - 09/23/09 08:39 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: sksfordman]
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I used it for the first time last week. I put it in two locations, next to worn deer trails. One area not touched and the other was just like they show, the bark was eaten off the tree I put it on. My suggestion would be, not to replace woodwise hunting with products that make it easyer.
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#1526991 - 09/29/09 08:44 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
trumtrum
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no luck either wish i could have my money back
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#1538945 - 10/05/09 08:44 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: trumtrum]
Ol' Mossyback
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Just give me a dumptruck load of corn and yall can fight over the rest of this new junk.
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#1541136 - 10/06/09 08:37 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Ol' Mossyback]
Tim Johnson
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According to Hank Parker it is the best thing since sliced bread.
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#1541267 - 10/06/09 09:36 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Tim Johnson]
51 pointer
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I have to say the shake bag works, C'mere Deer gave me some of the liquid product years ago before it hit the market and I got no response from it, however last thursday at 5pm I set a camera up for my first time on a new farm I had just scouted briefly, the camera was 25yds from a white oak dropping great and from thursday at 5pm to Sunday morning I got 104 pics all nose to the ground where I shook the grainules out no acorns in fron of the camera, 4 different bucks 3 of which are 2.5 yrs old one maybe 3.5 but won't score more than 125", all activity was at night since we did have full moon all weekend, it could have been luck but they seemed interested, yes it is expensive and I won't use unless Im just trying to get pics to learn this farm a little
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#1543808 - 10/08/09 08:38 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: 51 pointer]
51 pointer
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just to add an additional note here, from Sunday morning to last night my camera took 2 pics from the same spot with NO C'mere Dear, 3 nights and 104 pics to 3 nights and 2 pics, and the white oak is still droppin like crazy, however they are not eating these acorns or I would have had some more pics, The shake bag must work, curious why they aren't eating these white oaks
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#1556582 - 10/15/09 07:39 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
deer_hunter
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i believe with jarred on the corn, but i have had the three day harvest work and the buck juice might have just been my land i was on.
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#1560788 - 10/17/09 05:00 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
BARhunter
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This stuff is a waste of money and does not work. I am surprised it is still around. Don't waste money on this stuff!
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#1561016 - 10/17/09 07:18 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: BARhunter]
Backstrapcrazy
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I did not have any luck with this product.
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#1578928 - 10/26/09 09:23 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
warpheagle
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I bought some a couple of summers ago and put it out in front of one of my trail cameras. I could not tell that it got any more attention than my other camera location in front of trace mineral salt. Color me disappointed, too.
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#1578947 - 10/26/09 09:27 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
LA man
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I BOUGHT SOME 2 YEARS AGO AND USED IT WITH NO GOOD RESULTS
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#1585212 - 10/29/09 06:49 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: LA man]
Harvester
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junk didn't work for me either put out camera and no pics at all
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#2121791 - 10/20/10 09:17 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Harvester]
4huntn
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I had no luck with it in front of my trail cams but the mice in my shed love the stuff!!! Waste of money in my opinion.
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#2121820 - 10/20/10 09:33 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: 4huntn]
southernhunter
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dont waste your money ,had no luck at all.
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#2121830 - 10/20/10 09:39 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: southernhunter]
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This crap is a gimmick if i ever saw one, they got my money but won't buy again, will stick to my peanut butter.
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#2124455 - 10/22/10 10:48 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: ]
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Try the swamp donkey.. ive had severat deer stop for it in the syrup form..c'mere is garbage
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#2124487 - 10/22/10 11:03 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: BDS05]
Rowdy
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Works for Hank
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#2171082 - 11/17/10 09:24 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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it didnt work for me
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#2321995 - 02/25/11 05:12 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER]
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 Originally Posted By: ROUGH COUNTRY HUNTER
it didnt work for me


ditto
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#2515571 - 09/10/11 10:40 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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i have used it for 2 years and i have proof. me and my brother was doing our reg like putting cams out and stuff. within like a 4 week time he had like 800+ pics of some giants.i had like 30 of some does. i put cmere deer out and one week later i had 400+ of all his bucks asnd he had bout 30 pics. so i use it alot now
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#2516053 - 09/10/11 08:44 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: z7x]
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WASTED MY MONEY ON IT ONCE ALSO. BEST THING LIKE THAT I HAVE USED IS THE BUCK JAM PERSIMMON FLAVOR....THEY LOVE IT
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#2516060 - 09/10/11 08:49 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Carlos Viagra]
biglefty20
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not worth anything....better off taking a p in the spot
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#2516175 - 09/10/11 10:41 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: z7x]
RAFI
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 Originally Posted By: xtreme killer
i have used it for 2 years and i have proof. me and my brother was doing our reg like putting cams out and stuff. within like a 4 week time he had like 800+ pics of some giants.i had like 30 of some does. i put cmere deer out and one week later i had 400+ of all his bucks asnd he had bout 30 pics. so i use it alot now


is that you hank.lol \:D

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#2979872 - 10/13/12 01:43 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
DoubleTap89
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used the c'mere deer xtreme and got some results on a trail camera. we put it around a nice spot with no visible signs of deer and brought some in. so i've found it works pretty well
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#2981057 - 10/14/12 02:47 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: turkeyhunter64]
Bucks & Beards
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 Originally Posted By: turkeyhunter64
expensive gimmick excellent marketing.
I agree

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#2984261 - 10/16/12 12:43 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
REM7
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tried it a few years ago and imo waste of money. deer didnt use it.
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#2984461 - 10/16/12 03:01 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: REM7]
southernhunter
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if u go back to 2010 i made a post in here about having no luck at all with it . i was trying the liquid in a spray bottle.sprayed that crap on every thing i could think of got nothing . but last year after deer season i was at walmart and they had the powder marked down to something like 5 bucks . so i was like what the heck and bought some . took it to the farm and poured it on a old stump where i keep a salt block . got a lot of pics . long story short i would never pay full price for it but if i see some powder c'mere marked down like that again i would try it just to see if i got the same result .
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#2987334 - 10/18/12 10:17 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: southernhunter]
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I think one problem with all these food type deer attractants is that most rely on salt. Based on my years of leaving trail cameras out year round over salt licks, a deer has little to no desire for salt during hunting season. Especially bucks. Mid September is about the end of the line for regular visits to salt on my farm. But most guys buy this stuff about October or November. It should be put out in March or April.

I use mostly Whitetail Institute "30-06 with Protein" or Evolved Habitat's "Rack-Up" - both of which contain a lot of beneficial minerals other than salt but do have enough salt to make the deer want to eat it. The Deer-Caine in all it's forms is great to put out occasionally to get them to eat the healthy stuff even more! Same goes for the various flavors of Buck-Jam liquid.

Now regarding C'mere Deer, all I have ever tried was the liquid and I saw no positive results. Nada. ZIP. I sprayed the stuff all over the plants in front of several trail cameras and never once had a deer show any interest in something covered in that snake oil. They still came to the salt as if the C'Mere Deer wasn't there. Never tried the powder.

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#3065563 - 12/06/12 12:46 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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Made to appeal to the hunter ..... not the deer IMO tried it sat there till the rain washed it away.... dont recommend it @ all
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#3071274 - 12/09/12 05:44 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: cbcs1987]
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 Originally Posted By: cbcs1987
I feel embarassed just to say I tried it one time 2 years ago. Buy cheap peanut butter at wally world. Paint it flat black if you don't want other people to see where your feedin deer (remember you can't do this during the season) to bring them in the area. Then just tie it to a tree and cut a 2-3" hole in the bottom so the deer gotta work to get to it. It cost less than a dollar, last weeks, and works better than anything on the "deer market." Give it a try ;\)

I gotta agree with you. Peanut Butter is a good attractant.
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#3071280 - 12/09/12 05:48 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: ROVERBOY]
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Every critter in the woods loves PB....
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#3071282 - 12/09/12 05:50 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: RAFI]
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 Originally Posted By: RAFI
 Originally Posted By: xtreme killer
i have used it for 2 years and i have proof. me and my brother was doing our reg like putting cams out and stuff. within like a 4 week time he had like 800+ pics of some giants.i had like 30 of some does. i put cmere deer out and one week later i had 400+ of all his bucks asnd he had bout 30 pics. so i use it alot now


is that you hank.lol \:D

Gotta be Hank.
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#3081354 - 12/16/12 12:27 AM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: Yank]
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i myself used the powder in an area with alot of deer but nothing not even squirrels hit it!
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#3082633 - 12/16/12 08:32 PM Re: Does c'mere deer work? [Re: deerthug78]
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I tried C'mere Deer this year in a feeding area that was being hit nightly by a minimum of 5 bucks and 3 does. Had a game cam set up to see how the deer reacted to it. They totally ignored it.
Just my experience. Your mileage may vary.

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