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<blockquote data-quote="scn" data-source="post: 5888114" data-attributes="member: 1859"><p>There is no reason for me to call Dr. Harper, because frankly, I don't think I would fully trust what he said.</p><p></p><p>I am in no way implying that he would manipulate data in a major way. But, for many years TWRA and its Commissioners have been a MAJOR source of funding for the research studies done by his department. I think that it is only human nature that if there is no obvious direction for the data, that he and his researchers would side with whatever way the wind is blowing from the Agency and Commissioners. And, I have been told by some folks that probably would know that there are some very influential Commissioners that are bemoaning the decrease in the nonresident license $$$ that the season delay has caused. The want those nonresident license dollars back even if it adversely impacts their resident WMA hunters or the turkey flock. Thus the wind is certainly blowing to say that the delay isn't helping.</p><p></p><p>There has recently been some data shown on this site that suggests the delay gave a 20+% increase in nesting success in counties with the delay. That may be negligible to some, but, I will be on the side of the turkey flock over the whiners and nonresidents.</p><p></p><p>While you can argue some of the data interpretation and whether it is or isn't helping, there is no reasonable argument that the delay is detrimental to the turkey flock. After well over a decade of gross mismanagement of turkeys by TWRA, I think the flock deserves a chance to recover a little, even if some hunters don't like it. But, in this world, money usually runs things, so I highly anticipate we will see a return to mismanagement to regain those $$$$.</p><p></p><p>Since I am probably year to year at this point in the game, there is really no reason for me to care about the future. Just kill them all. But, when it goes further down the toilet (and you don't have to look at many graphs to see that) I hope some of you will realize you were part of the reasons for decline.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="scn, post: 5888114, member: 1859"] There is no reason for me to call Dr. Harper, because frankly, I don't think I would fully trust what he said. I am in no way implying that he would manipulate data in a major way. But, for many years TWRA and its Commissioners have been a MAJOR source of funding for the research studies done by his department. I think that it is only human nature that if there is no obvious direction for the data, that he and his researchers would side with whatever way the wind is blowing from the Agency and Commissioners. And, I have been told by some folks that probably would know that there are some very influential Commissioners that are bemoaning the decrease in the nonresident license $$$ that the season delay has caused. The want those nonresident license dollars back even if it adversely impacts their resident WMA hunters or the turkey flock. Thus the wind is certainly blowing to say that the delay isn't helping. There has recently been some data shown on this site that suggests the delay gave a 20+% increase in nesting success in counties with the delay. That may be negligible to some, but, I will be on the side of the turkey flock over the whiners and nonresidents. While you can argue some of the data interpretation and whether it is or isn't helping, there is no reasonable argument that the delay is detrimental to the turkey flock. After well over a decade of gross mismanagement of turkeys by TWRA, I think the flock deserves a chance to recover a little, even if some hunters don't like it. But, in this world, money usually runs things, so I highly anticipate we will see a return to mismanagement to regain those $$$$. Since I am probably year to year at this point in the game, there is really no reason for me to care about the future. Just kill them all. But, when it goes further down the toilet (and you don't have to look at many graphs to see that) I hope some of you will realize you were part of the reasons for decline. [/QUOTE]
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