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Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby AT Hiker » Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:48 pm

Is Nevada setting a precedent for similar regulations? I don’t think we have much to worry about anytime soon but if you know much of anything about Western hunting in some of these more arid States your aware of the impact trail cams have on wildlife.

I think this makes for a interesting discussion.

“The new trail camera regulation states that a person shall not place, maintain, or use a trail camera or similar device on public land, or private land without permission from the land owner, from August 1 to December 31 of each year, or if the camera is capable of transmitting the images or video, it shall not be used from July 1 to December 31. The regulation does provide some limited exemptions for livestock monitoring, research, and other miscellaneous uses”

http://www.ndow.org/Our_Agency/News/Art ... in_Effect/


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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby Matador » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:15 pm

I have no problem with that decision. Basically taking away the technology so the hunter has to become a hunter again. Yeah it should make some interesting discussion.
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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby Buzzard Breath » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:34 pm

IMO, the law makes perfect sense in a place like Nevada or Arizona where animals are dependant on a single source of a necessity (water) to survive. Some of these water holes have up to 25 cameras on them and just before the season the animals are constantly being bumped off them while the cameras are being checked.

In TN, this law would be completely unnecessary. If an animal gets bumped out, it can just get the resources somewhere else.

I personally hardly ever use trail cameras. But think they are a good thing and can be used to help get kids and nonhunters more involved in hunting and the outdoors. I know a few people who can effectively use them, but for the most part, they do more damage to the user's opportunities than they help them.

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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby gtk » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:20 pm

From what I gather from reading that article, there are some people who set out trailcams, get a pic of a trophy animal, and sell the location for $$$$$. I usually don't like any kind of government interference, but I can sort of understand this one.

However, instead of banning "all" cameras, i would have thought they would at least have gone after people selling the coordinates instead of an outright ban on them.

I had no idea there was such a market for this data
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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby gasman » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:31 pm

Matador wrote:I have no problem with that decision. Basically taking away the technology so the hunter has to become a hunter again. Yeah it should make some interesting discussion.


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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby MickThompson » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:39 pm

gtk wrote:From what I gather from reading that article, there are some people who set out trailcams, get a pic of a trophy animal, and sell the location for $$$$$. I usually don't like any kind of government interference, but I can sort of understand this one.

However, instead of banning "all" cameras, i would have thought they would at least have gone after people selling the coordinates instead of an outright ban on them.

I had no idea there was such a market for this data


Simple- commercialization of wildlife runs counter to the North American conservation model, but wildlife crimes are generally consider misdemeanors, and not worthy of lengthy investigations and stings it would take to convict people selling coords. Instead, they are able to confiscate the cameras as they come across them.


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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby AT Hiker » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:53 pm

gtk wrote:
I had no idea there was such a market for this data


It’s worse than you can imagine. Outfitters are commonly known to have guides literally camped out on a animal days prior to season opener to get their client in place for the kill.


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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby LanceS4803 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:01 pm

AT Hiker wrote:
gtk wrote:I had no idea there was such a market for this data

It’s worse than you can imagine. Outfitters are commonly known to have guides literally camped out on a animal days prior to season opener to get their client in place for the kill.


Days?
For some of the Governor's tags the animal is under near 24/7 surveillance, eyes on, for months prior to the opening day. Teams of guys will camp and follow the animal. The client just needs to show up and they already know the 8 digit grid where it is.
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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby Carlos Viagra » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:44 pm

Whitetails/Livestock, whatever.
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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby infoman jr. » Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:55 pm

I don't understand the increased scrutiny of the wireless cameras.
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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby gtk » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:11 pm

yea, i realize that folks locate and "homestead" trophy animals, but i didn't realize that the sold gps coordinates from trailcam data to the highest bidder. :(
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Re: Nevada trail cam seasonal ban

Postby AT Hiker » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:18 pm

gtk wrote:yea, i realize that folks locate and "homestead" trophy animals, but i didn't realize that the sold gps coordinates from trailcam data to the highest bidder. :(


I think it is a way to get around being a “outfitter”.
Think of it this way...pay me $3k to take you into this unit and help you shoot a animal. (This method requires being licensed, insured, blah, blah, blah)
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Here are some GPS coordinates to a couple areas I know solid animals bed/feed in. Give me $500 and they are yours. No expense of outfitting requires and your time involved is cut in 1/2.

It’s stupid


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