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Surface drive or long tail

Postby MackPC » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:27 pm

Alright. I’ve got a 1645 boat that I use for duck hunting. I’m wanting to build a 22 go predator long tail but I’ve never rode in a boat with one before. Do they have enough power for maybe 3 guys in the boat? Also considering building a surface drive with the same predator engine. What do you guys suggest?
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby Dodge Man » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:02 pm

Long Tail is better for brush, deep weed or grass, lot of mud with shallow water. You would be able to get moving and push heavy loads in very little water with a long tail.

A short tail or more for faster speeds in shallow water. If you get i to some really shallow water and mud you will get stuck quicker. Just my experience.


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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby RUGER » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:25 pm

Tough call, two totally different animals.
Each has it's place.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby BlackEagle1 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:04 pm

Ruger is right. I’m a short shaft outboard guy, but of the two I’d take a surface drive. I’m my experience they are a little easier to handle.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby tickweed » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:09 am

long tail much better for logs, stumps. surface faster. you high center a stump, you better have a long tail. I had a 16, not enough power, traded to a 23, haven't got stuck yet.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby TNGunsmoke » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:03 am

One other thing to think about, I have not seen a long tail with a reverse feature, but I have seen surface drives with them. I am not saying they don't make them, just that I have not seen them.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby RUGER » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:45 am

Longtails are A LOT cheaper too.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby Westtnduckhtr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:42 pm

Who makes the best long tail kit? I would plan on using a HF Predator engine.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby Grnwing » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:44 pm

I think a lot depends on where you are going to be hunting.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby RUGER » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:11 pm

Westtnduckhtr wrote:Who makes the best long tail kit? I would plan on using a HF Predator engine.


We bought one of these a couple years ago.
We used a HF Predator engine as well.
Absolutely zero issues... after my son figured out how to disable the oil sensor thing that kept shutting the engine off when he tilted it.

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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby Westtnduckhtr » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:21 pm

Thanks Ruger great information. Will have to study up on this one.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby Gad Father » Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:48 pm

Really depends on what you are going to do with it. Long trip, deep water, rough water =Surface drive. Small sloughs and mud flats without chop or a lot of big water a long tail should work.
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby RUGER » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:35 am

Westtnduckhtr wrote:Thanks Ruger great information. Will have to study up on this one.


It went together really well.
The only thing we did was the bolts that attach the gold colored piece to the engine were too short for my liking.
We just bought some better, longer bolts and rolled on.

It has been used / abused and has never missed a lick.
He has only broken one prop too.
Hit a big chunk of concrete with it LOL

We drove down and picked it up from the guy that sells them and he came out of the dove field on opening day to meet us. Can't beat a guy like that. :D
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Re: Surface drive or long tail

Postby DRSJ35 » Mon Aug 19, 2019 11:28 pm

Swamp runner is the top dog trust me. Just built way stronger.I got one and have beat it to death. i been running up creeks with 6 inches of water.And the shaft is rock solid.I use it sometimes to dig down in the shallow mud to twist my boat around with 2 guys weighing 250 a piece.I searched long and hard and am glad i went with swamp runners check them out.Trust me you just want to do this once.
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