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Postby THE DUKE » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:06 am

Any recommendations on loading a Barnes expandable, my first 5-6" is hard then gets alittle easier?
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby TDW05 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:46 am

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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby muddyboots » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:54 am

I just swab my barrel between shots. Improved accuracy also
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby cbhunter » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:31 am

THE DUKE wrote:Any recommendations on loading a Barnes expandable, my first 5-6" is hard then gets alittle easier?
this is my first year shooting the Barnes expandables and they load super easy in mine


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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby Frayser » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:25 pm

I had the same experience when I used them years ago - almost have to use a hammer to get them seated. I posted on a thread about MZ's a little while ago and somebody said they make a smaller sabot that loads easier. Might be something to check out. I've never seen any bullet do more terminal damage though!
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby muddyboots » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:27 pm

Smaller sabot will load easier but will not shoot as accurate.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby TRIGGER » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:09 pm

They are tight in mine but nothing crazy. On a side note this is what they do to a coyote. Haven’t had the right deer in front of me to shoot since changing to them. The first pic is from today. The second are from last year. I love these bullets
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby CHRIS WILSON » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:07 pm

Change out the sabot for Harvester crushed rib sabots and see how they shoot. Some muzzleloaders have tighter bores than others and need a thinner sabot to load a bit easier.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby THE DUKE » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:24 pm

I'm shooting a cva optima, I have the blk sabots that came with them. I switched from harvester crushed rib with 240xp bullet, that loaded alot easier.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby Spurhunter » Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:28 pm

CHRIS WILSON wrote:Change out the sabot for Harvester crushed rib sabots and see how they shoot. Some muzzleloaders have tighter bores than others and need a thinner sabot to load a bit easier.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby THE DUKE » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:02 pm

Which harvester sabots do I need for 250gr Barnes expandable.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby CHRIS WILSON » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:17 pm

THE DUKE wrote:Which harvester sabots do I need for 250gr Barnes expandable.

The Expander is a .451 diameter, so the Harvester black crushed rib.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby THE DUKE » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:24 pm

I have the slick sabots now, wld the harvester be thinner?
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby THE DUKE » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:25 pm

I have the blk slick sabots now.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby CHRIS WILSON » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:45 pm

Harvester crush rib sabots are designed to reduce loading friction. I used them in my Optima pistol. They do load easier and accuracy is excellent. You could also try a MMP HPH24 sabot. It's also designed for tighter bore muzzleloaders.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby MUP » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:49 am

I was shooting the old Knight black sabot but trying to use them in my new CVA Wolf was a no go, literally. I almost got one stuck just trying to load it. I was dry swabbing between shots too. Accuracy was all over the paper. GMB54 in the ML forum advised me that those newer CVA barrels were tight and to use the Harvester EZ Load Short black sabot. I did, and loading was normal again, and accuracy returned. Check out the "Range Outing Wolf" thread in the ML forum for more details and a link for those particular sabots.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby CHRIS WILSON » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:01 am

MUP wrote:I was shooting the old Knight black sabot but trying to use them in my new CVA Wolf was a no go, literally. I almost got one stuck just trying to load it. I was dry swabbing between shots too. Accuracy was all over the paper. GMB54 in the ML forum advised me that those newer CVA barrels were tight and to use the Harvester EZ Load Short black sabot. I did, and loading was normal again, and accuracy returned. Check out the "Range Outing Wolf" thread in the ML forum for more details and a link for those particular sabots.

I forgot about the Harvester EZ Load sabot. That could be an option as well.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby THE DUKE » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:43 am

Ordered some harvester crush rib sabots thanks for info.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby sgtwebb1 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:11 pm

I had the same problems, switched to the TEZ (blue) sabots in my Optima V2, works like a charm.
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Re: Loading muzz?

Postby CHRIS WILSON » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:52 pm

The Barnes TEZ are sold with an easy load sabot for tighter bores. I believe it's the MMP HPH24 but don't quote me on that. I shoot the 250 gr TEZ out of my Optima rifle. They go down snug but not overly tight and shoot well.
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