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So you sold your timber standing?
tidepops1 wrote:come by the other day and wanted to know if i would be interested in having mine cut, it has not been cut in 30+ years how would logging affect my deer hunting. thanks
Have 132 acres in Houston County. Select cut it in 2001 and again in 2012. It has become a deer magnet! We shoot some nice bucks every year. The one recommendation I would have is get a forester consultant and have him look your property over, tell him your objective and he will do the rest. We used them for both cuts and couldn't be happier. What was shocking was the difference in sealed quotes we received. The first cut we did ranged from $11,000 to $23,000 for the same marked trees. That is a difference we couldn't ignore. I'm not saying lumber companies will try and rip you off, but there definitely is a difference in how they look at your property.
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I guess you would call it that.
I used a broker who came in and gauged what I wanted. I told him what I wanted to achieve. Told him I was losing 5-7 large trees a year to storms and it had been 60+ years since it was last logged.
Told him I did not want to loose all my mast trees for the deer. He was a deer hunter and totally understood my situation. He marked something like 700 assorted trees to be cut assorted by white oaks, cherry, Red oaks and poplar. He got the veneer trees top dollar as well. He inventoried all of that and sent it out for bids. Bids came back and we took the top bid. It was right in my estimated as I had something like 38 acres of hard woods on my property and I was told you usually get 1K per acre. So we were defiantly in the ball park. He over saw the entire process made sure they were working on schedule and made sure all necessary repairs were done to roads, fences and all trash was picked up. he really stayed on top of things. The 3800 he was paid was a small price for what he did IMHO as he was there for almost two weeks marking trees and was there off and on for 4 weeks overseeing the project.
I may or may not have gotten more going directly through a logger. Many of them will tell you one thing and then do another. If your not there every day and go with every load your not sure what you are really getting paid on each load. THen you don't know if the people in the sawmill are not in with the logging group or not. I would rather have someone there that has my back that is under contract to protect me in the event something goes horribly wrong than having to duke it out with a timber cutting crew I can't track down after the job goes bad. Trust me I have heard the horror stories and seen some really botched jobs.
First year I did see some shifts in the property. Had to start hunting it a little different. Some of the heavy mast areas where not there so they where not hitting it as often. With that said they were not bedding near it either which in turn sorta worked out to be a plus. We were not busting the deer coming into that area. In the past we had a hard time hitting that area especially in the AM hours as they would bed down there . What we did find that the opening of the canopy did allow alot more sunlight in and we had a lot more green on the forest floor and that created alot more browse and in turn alot more cover all over the property. Not just in pockets. So now the deer seem to have more freedom on the property to roam and we are seeing more deer during the daylight hours. Where as before we where pretty much seeing them early am or late PM.
Its taken a few years for the property to get back to what I feel like it looked like before. At first it looked like a whole bunch of trees were missing and limbs were everywhere sticking up. Not so much anymore. As a matter of fact if you were a guest coming on the property you might not even know the property had been logged 3 years back. You might just think a storm had come through and blown over a bunch of trees as most of the stumps are pretty much grown over by grass and weeds. New trees are growing up in and around where the old trees where and smaller trees are looking and growing much stronger. I am not loosing trees no where near the number I was before. Maybe one a year now and its usually to straight line winds.
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